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It's A Me · Jun 30, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

lol @ arkantos post

Burst Cancel · Jun 30, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25

Re Locust swarm: it's really hard to tell what kind of damage they're doing in that video. The Wall of Zombies is only listed as doing '15 damage' (I assume that means 15 DPS, but the zombies might attack more than once per second; I don't know) and the Moon Clan Warriors were dying on contact.

I didn't see any numbers for Locust Swarm, but it looks like 'Chain Inferno'. If we assume that the number of jumps scales with level, as well as DPS, it could get pretty scary for killing masses of weak enemies. I can't see it being useful for bosses (of any kind), and it's too slow to use when facing enemies that can, you know, actually hurt you.

The WDs could have ended the Siegebreaker fight in a hurry with summon+explosion. Judging by the damage each explosion was doing, it wouldn't have taken more than a dozen to bury it. The boss fight just wasn't very impressive at all - he's not fast enough, doesn't have enough health, and doesn't do enough damage. I'm assuming (hoping?) the devs were cheating or overlevelled for that video.

Did anyone notice how fast their mana orbs were regening?

As for classes, I'm pretty sure we can guess what the remaining three will be: a mage, a knight, and a rogue. I'd be really surprised if Blizz deviated from that classic standard.

Abedeus · Jun 30, 2008, 06:38 PM // 18:38

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

I went to future shop, they had 6, $50, so I was like lolno. I then went to best buy, sold out. 2 EB games locations, sold out. I went back to future shop to look for other stuff, and the 6 were gone. Lol, people actually paid $50.

Diablo 3 announced, Diablo 2 starts selling out again. Gg Blizzard, gg.

Lol. Finally Poland has something at least 3 times cheaper than the rest ;d. Here, D2 + LoD are 50 zł, while $1 = ~2,4zł. So around $10-15 here. Niceeee.

But I already have 2 copies.

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Did anyone notice how fast their mana orbs were regening?

Told ya - probably either modded chars or high-level.

BlackSephir · Jun 30, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

They're probably characters on steroids, it's not something uncommon when showing off your game.

Showtime · Jun 30, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Anyone wanting to try out d2... the battlechest is on sale for $30. D1, D2, and D2 Expansion.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

http://www.amazon.com/Blizzard-Enter...dp/B00005N6K3/

garethporlest18 · Jun 30, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Burst the reason the zombies were killing so fast is probably because they were top skill level. I don't think they'd usually just wipe out the enemies like that, at least not right away.

some guy · Jun 30, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Yeah i went to EB games yesterday to pick up company of heroes, and every 1 there is asking for diablo 2 lol

EPO Bot · Jun 30, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

I'm NOT going to play Diablo 2 again!
Not!
I will resist!

Abedeus · Jun 30, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot

I'm NOT going to play Diablo 2 again!
Not!
I will resist!

Don't. It will be less painful to just give up.

Yichi · Jul 01, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Have you been on the wrong side of a fully-geared and minmaxed Bone Necro?

My poison nova nec didn't need minions

/sigh good times.

Arkantos · Jul 01, 2008, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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Originally Posted by Yichi

My poison nova nec didn't need minions

/sigh good times.

I heard you and Avarre owned D2 when you guys were in WASD. c/d

Burst Cancel · Jul 01, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Burst the reason the zombies were killing so fast is probably because they were top skill level. I don't think they'd usually just wipe out the enemies like that, at least not right away.

No, actually. That's what made it surprising. You can see the dev mouse-over the skill, and it isn't superbuffed or anything, and has an actual listed damage of just 15. So unless they were using a 'Power Overwhelming' instant-kill cheat or something (which seems unlikely, given that not everything dies in one hit), these monsters were just seriously weak.

I'm well aware that previews use tweaked characters, and that this preview was no exception. I'm just using the info we were given.

Yichi · Jul 01, 2008, 04:44 AM // 04:44

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

I heard you and Avarre owned D2 when you guys were in WASD. c/d

c. 7 frame hammerdins FTW!!! that and under 2 min nm cow charm farming with my poison nova nec that could break all immunities but one and do 9k poison damage in 2 seconds

I re-installed the game for 5 minutes, found all my accounts on west to be deleted due to inactivity, forgot everyone I knew ign's since account was deleted, so i promptly logged off and uninstalled it again

unless I can twist avarre and anyone else to start some chars on west ladder or hardcore west ladder

Showtime · Jul 01, 2008, 05:44 AM // 05:44

I was thinking of reinstalling, but I know both accounts are long gone.
It's also hard going back to 800x600 and stationary cameras. Hammerdins were fun pre nerf and after they got boosted again, but amazons were my favorite.

MrGuildBoi · Jul 01, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

I might reinstall D2 also

Avarre · Jul 01, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Originally Posted by Yichi

unless I can twist avarre and anyone else to start some chars on west ladder or hardcore west ladder

I was just thinking of doing that, actually.

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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

Re Locust swarm: it's really hard to tell what kind of damage they're doing in that video. The Wall of Zombies is only listed as doing '15 damage' (I assume that means 15 DPS, but the zombies might attack more than once per second; I don't know) and the Moon Clan Warriors were dying on contact.

They're probably not using balanced character mechanics for the demo, and just supercharging their characters to show off effects.

Abedeus · Jul 01, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Actually, that wall of zombies did 51 dmg to monster once, not 15. Download that huge 800mb trailer in high def, you'll notice that Barbarian also deals ~300-500 dmg each hit using a skill. In D2, such damage is possible at 40-50 level. A bit faster in 1.11b/12a, but still it's quite high level character. And since Deckard Cain appeared so fast, I assume this is 1st or 2nd act.

Tingi · Jul 01, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Diablo 3...will be the best game ever! I can't wait...shame we will have to for a while though

(New Diablo 3/blizzard games website/forum has been made:

visit: www.blizzardguru.com for all your d3 information and a friendly, growing community.)

KartMan · Jul 01, 2008, 02:25 PM // 14:25

sigh so many memories of d2

especially d2c hc (classic for ever and ftw)
used to play on EU ladder before GW, got a 92 (4M from 93) ama IIRC 2nd ama 13rd overall

though one thing I'm now used to with GW is that loot is randomly assigned (not so random sometimes...), so no need to ninja loot ><
now back to old fashion ...

wtb oldschool telekinesis

raven214 · Jul 01, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by moriz

hmm, D3 doesn't seem to feature a free-moving camera, but does have the WC3 style zooming in.

i guess we'll wait a see.

I've never played WC3 or WoW (or gotten into the WC series for that matter), but visually, D3 looks very similar in structure to D1 and 2: i.e., a distant, 3/4 overhead, fixed camera angle, with a one-step zoom. I don't know if I like that layout, because while it does pay tribute to the previuos games and give you that feel of "this is Diablo", it also limits the visuals... I love the breathtaking site of a fiery sky and expansive landscape behind/ahead of your character. I was a huge D1 and 2 fan, but am withholding judgement until more is known... just like as with GW2. I absolutely love the lore of the Diablo universe though, just like that of Guild Wars.